Curtis+Bonk+Ustream+Interview

02:03 mrsdurff : off topic - loved the wedding pics! 02:03 carolinegoodman : new to ustream. too cool 02:03 Jackson224 : okay 02:03 hawaiianbrat96 : I am new to ustream also 02:04 mrsdurff : he did hit record, right? 02:04 snbeach : smile to Lisa 02:04 snbeach : yes he is recording 02:04 hawaiianbrat96 : He said he did 02:04 mrsdurff : good 02:04 erhubbell : hi Tony Davis 02:07 mrsdurff : that is Skype doing that choppiness - nothing to be done i think 02:07 willrich45-2 : is it bad? 02:07 mrsdurff : yup 02:07 Jackson224 : broken audio 02:07 erhubbell : little hard to understand 02:07 hawaiianbrat96 : choppy, hard to understand 02:08 Jackson224 : try with just his video? 02:08 willrich45-2 : k 02:08 julener : Loving this...I am getting 10 computers now for one of the schools in Tanzania that I work with... 02:08 mrsdurff : Ghana? 02:08 julener : And, I have more coming for other schools. 02:08 mrsdurff : wow 02:08 hawaiianbrat96 : That is awesome! 02:09 Jackson224 : great! 02:09 julener : I've sent some before, but they need updated. 02:09 snbeach : I can live with it 02:09 eherreid : a little choppy from curtis 02:09 snbeach : it is doable 02:09 julener : I can live ith it. 02:09 eherreid : can live with it 02:09 mrsdurff : you might try to re-establish the call 02:09 Jackson224 : same... 02:09 snbeach : hi everyone 02:09 hawaiianbrat96 : It is okay, still choppy 02:09 maiden : you- perfect him- little choppy 02:09 snbeach : I am Sheryl 02:09 mrsdurff : yes snbeach it is worth it 02:10 snbeach : Do any of you have questions for Curtis? I can start to compile them and feed to Will 02:10 snbeach : just type them here 02:11 mrsdurff : where is the url to purchase his book? 02:11 julener : Now, I'm trying to get a set of MacBooks for the regional office of Jane Goodalll's Roots & Shoots in Kigoma (near Gombe) so students can make documentaries... 02:12 mrsdurff : exactly - let them construct their learnings 02:12 mrsdurff : the bleeding edge 02:12 hawaiianbrat96 : learning by doing 02:12 mrsdurff : ouch 02:13 mrsdurff : there is learning in establishing the connection to begin with 02:13 mrsdurff : connectivism 02:13 hawaiianbrat96 : constructivism and connectivism 02:14 snbeach : It is an emergent theory 02:14 mrsdurff : it's a process 02:14 snbeach : intuitively it makes great sense. 02:14 hawaiianbrat96 : It does 02:14 mrsdurff : we are doing that 02:14 snbeach : Any questions for Curtis 02:15 mrsdurff : we are constructing our learnings by being here 02:15 hawaiianbrat96 : The only question I have Sheryl is where could I purchase his books? 02:15 snbeach : We will post the titles sec 02:15 mrsdurff : where will the book by on sale - is there an url? 02:15 robinheyden-1 : A question for Curtis: Can he give us a specific example of a strong activity (perhaps from his new book?) for techers to use to facilitate online learning for students. In my conversations with teachers, I'm often in need of a quick, cogent, and powerful example to show them what I mean. 02:15 maiden : good question 02:16 snbeach : http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Curtis%20J.%20Bonk&page=1\ 02:16 mrsdurff : thanks 02:16 hawaiianbrat96 : Thanks Sheryl 02:17 snbeach : I have it hawaiian and have passed it to Will 02:17 mrsdurff : Joh Sealy Brown - does he have a website? 02:18 julener : http://php.indiana.edu/~cjbonk/ 02:18 willrich45-2 : too choppy? 02:18 mrsdurff : wearing a headset may improve audio 02:19 hawaiianbrat96 : better 02:19 mrsdurff : yes 02:20 Jackson224 : Audio is good but the reverb happens when without headset 02:20 snbeach : more is more I love it 02:20 snbeach : Have him stay close-- it sounds better. 02:20 hawaiianbrat96 : I noticed he is scooting back and it is getting a little choppy again 02:20 mrsdurff : he gets focused in the words and that is wonderful 02:21 hawaiianbrat96 : Question: What would Curtis offer as advice for those teachers who are not ready to get on board with online learning and integrating such skills into the classroom? I find I am constantly bumping into teachers like this. 02:21 mrsdurff : is the world really flat? 02:22 hawaiianbrat96 : lol -with the older educators, yes, in technological sense 02:22 mrsdurff : yes me too 02:22 mrkimmi : I think we are all finding teachers like that... 02:22 mrsdurff : hi kimmi 02:22 mrkimmi : I doubt there is any one way to reach them. 02:22 mrkimmi : Hello durffinator 02:22 mrsdurff : not just older ones 02:22 hawaiianbrat96 : I am a pre-service teacher and it aggrevates me that my college boasts online learning and integrated technology into educaton and I get to observe teachers who are opposed to it completely 02:22 hawaiianbrat96 : True, not just older, just those who are not computer literate 02:23 snbeach : open up your hearts to each other- informal nature.. all key strengths for online CoP 02:23 mrsdurff : i see pre-service who are so opposed to tech 02:23 hawaiianbrat96 : Really? 02:23 mrkimmi : I think it depends on what shcool you attend 02:23 mrsdurff : project based learning = constructing your own knowledge ? 02:23 snbeach : I was quoting him as he talked -- not my ideas 02:23 hawaiianbrat96 : My college is all for it. When it is first introduced, they are hesitant, but once they see it in action, they are on board. 02:24 mrsdurff : no audio 02:24 mrsdurff : he is baack 02:24 snbeach : there is something about learning through immersion 02:24 hawaiianbrat96 : learning by doing - my motto 02:24 mrsdurff : yes -= it engages 02:24 erhubbell : i think a lot of pre-service teachers are users of technology themselves, but aren't necessarily taught how to use it with students 02:24 hawaiianbrat96 : Well, I am sure it was coined somewhere else. lol 02:24 snbeach : Those of us who have been at this awhile all cut our teeth on Papert 02:25 snbeach : Amen 02:25 hawaiianbrat96 : True, I know many of my peers are still trying to understand how to integrate it, but are at least open to it. 02:25 mrkimmi : I agree wiht erhubbel 02:25 mharlan : it needs to meet learners (teachers) where they are at and when they need it in order to be effective, love the informal nature commentd he made 02:25 mrsdurff : what does he think about Heppell's idea of "nearly there" and how do those spaces affect learning? 02:25 mrkimmi : Bringin in the rleuctant, I think you have create some sort of situation where it becomes important to them 02:25 hawaiianbrat96 : I always feel like a techie-geek when I do my presentations and lessons in peer classes because I integrate a lot of technology 02:25 mharlan : kimmi- exactly 02:25 snbeach : I am so intrigued by Roger- I would love to work with him on projects. 02:25 mrsdurff : really? 02:26 mrsdurff : not hearsd of papert? 02:26 erhubbell : mrkimmi - agreed. Create a "want" and "need" for integration 02:26 mrsdurff : and they went to college? 02:26 hawaiianbrat96 : I agree with that also mrkimmi and erhubble 02:26 mrkimmi : We find reasons to come here for what we want, they need to come for themselves 02:26 snbeach : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert 02:26 hawaiianbrat96 : The Internet is such a great source to be adaptable to all learning styles 02:26 erhubbell : YES! 02:26 hawaiianbrat96 : That alone is a great tool! 02:26 hawaiianbrat96 : mrkimmi - agreed! 02:27 mrsdurff : Qt: what does he think about Heppell's idea of "nearly there" and how do those spaces affect learning? 02:27 snbeach : we now have the tools available to support what Papert dreamed very easily 02:27 mrkimmi : Show them how they can communicate with family that lives far away 02:27 mrkimmi : or how they can connect with other knitters, or what ever their hobby is 02:27 hawaiianbrat96 : Expansive! 02:28 snbeach : My favorite book by Papert- # Mindstorms: Children, Computers, and Powerful Ideas, 1980, ISBN 0-465-04674-6 02:28 hawaiianbrat96 : We just got my husband's aunt - almost 60 - on the laptop and Internet this summer and she is so for it! Others her age in her area are frightened! LOL 02:28 mrsdurff : ok then we see it 02:28 erhubbell : @snbeach hear, hear! 02:28 hawaiianbrat96 : Awesome zoom. 02:28 julener : And, how to you get teachers engaged in global education and collaboration...when they are still focused on their own curriculum, etc. 02:29 mrkimmi : I like what he is saying 02:29 julener : Salt the hay...?? 02:29 mrkimmi : move tech into a low-risk area in the day 02:29 mrkimmi : Don't start with reading or math, a place being tested by NCLB 02:29 hawaiianbrat96 : julener - very good question. Many of us teachers have curriculum set up around 'the test'. How do you incorporate into that? 02:29 erhubbell : much clearer! 02:29 mrsdurff : so just by constant exposure is what one does with reluctant tech integrators 02:30 hawaiianbrat96 : YAY! CLEAR! 02:30 snbeach : I used Curtis' mentoring characteristics as a piece of my mentorhsip research 02:30 mrsdurff : it was the Skype demons 02:30 hawaiianbrat96 : lol 02:30 mharlan : find the tools that work within the standards, 02:30 julener : yes...in fact, I did a retreat for Indiana Supertintendents on web 2.0 and also on global ed...and how do we still address state testing was the big question. 02:30 snbeach : http://www.curriki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome 02:30 mharlan : it is there, you can use the tools to still meet the areas being tested 02:31 julener : How do we change the system to address the way students need to learn. 02:31 hawaiianbrat96 : It is hard to do, especially in school districts like mine. I am in Las Vegas NV - they are very hesitant to do it more than school by school basis. 02:31 cbeard : Julener, start with something simple: wikis and vocabulary. 02:31 cbeard : Everyone teaches vocabulary. It's a good entry point. 02:31 mrsdurff : what about those who don't have access are not included in this flat world? 02:31 cbeard : Things can develop from there. 02:31 TS92turbo : SHUT THE UP NERDS 02:31 TS92turbo : LOL 02:31 TS92turbo : NERDS 02:32 TS92turbo : SHUT UP 02:32 TS92turbo : big nose! 02:32 TS92turbo : NERD 02:32 TS92turbo : WOOOOO! 02:32 mrsdurff : we need a moderator 02:32 mrkimmi : Shouldn't someone have taught this person some ethics 02:32 hawaiianbrat96 : Starting small is definitely key 02:32 julener : Yep...I teach that and share the basics in keynotes and workshops. But, the bigger picture of fixing the testing system looms... 02:32 mrsdurff : UbD? 02:33 hawaiianbrat96 : I suppose that guy would be the reason why some districts are hesitant about online collaboration and learning 02:33 hawaiianbrat96 : Understanding By Design? 02:33 hawaiianbrat96 : UBD? 02:33 mrsdurff : ustream allows moderation 02:33 julener : Grant Wiggins' book - backwards design 02:33 hawaiianbrat96 : I love project-based learning 02:33 mrsdurff : Universal Desiogn - Grant Wiggins & Somenbody McTighe 02:34 julener : Agreed 02:34 hawaiianbrat96 : Students, especially once they get into middle and high school, do not get enough of it 02:34 snbeach : Need to show growth over time 02:34 snbeach : not grades 02:34 snbeach : not one end measure 02:34 hawaiianbrat96 : I agree! 02:34 julener : I love the comment he made at the beginning about the kind of knowledge and learning changing... 02:35 hawaiianbrat96 : Go Web 2.0! :D 02:35 snbeach : http://mediatedcultures.net/ksudigg/?author=1 02:35 mrkimmi : You know what is funny, I went to Kansas State and did not here about Mike Welsh until I was out for three years 02:35 julener : With that, testing seems to need to change to something that shows that students know how to contsruct knowledge, find information, have digital literacy, yada yada... 02:35 hawaiianbrat96 : I have heard his name in passing 02:36 hawaiianbrat96 : Our testing is for the stone ages compared to what the students need to be prepared for the world outside of high school 02:36 snbeach : I would love to know some of the titles on his bookshelf 02:36 snbeach : behind him 02:36 hawaiianbrat96 : I have been thinking that this whole time Sheryl! LOL 02:36 mrsdurff : he should do a Shelfari 02:36 hawaiianbrat96 : Then again, I am a bookworm 02:37 mharlan : I love the comments on ebook idea - awesome 02:37 mharlan : like diigo or clipmarks kind of 02:38 julener : Love Flips! The students at Suumu Secondary School in TZ took my flip and shot video all day!! 02:38 mrkimmi : Sounds liek the smae struggle we are having with conferences releasing their content freely 02:39 hawaiianbrat96 : YES! BOOKS! 02:39 mrkimmi : Silly fingers of mine 02:39 hawaiianbrat96 : bottom 02:40 mrsdurff : this one's for you 02:40 hawaiianbrat96 : lol 02:40 hawaiianbrat96 : please 02:40 hawaiianbrat96 : LOL Nice! 02:41 hawaiianbrat96 : My aunt has that book on her shelf in Hawaii 02:41 mrsdurff : ha the conversations 02:41 mrsdurff : bingo 02:42 mrsdurff : but there is tenure 02:42 mrsdurff : stops innovation 02:42 wjohnsen : snbeach -- you share the article from Monday's paper about VB strat. plan? 02:43 mrsdurff : that is where the cutting edge is located 02:43 mrsdurff : in the flow 02:43 mrsdurff : that russian guy said about flow 02:43 snbeach : no wjohnsen- do you have the link? 02:44 erhubbell : Mihály Csíkszentmihályi 02:44 hawaiianbrat96 : definitely ecclectic 02:44 mrsdurff : yea him 02:44 mrsdurff : hi jack 02:44 snbeach : hi Jack 02:44 erhubbell : hi jack 02:45 hawaiianbrat96 : Hello Jack! 02:45 mrsdurff : how does he put up with Bonk? 02:45 wjohnsen : snbeach..can't find it right now..have a pdf 02:45 mrsdurff : like MITOpencourseware 02:45 snbeach : YES! 02:46 snbeach : Open aCCESS to scholarly articles is huge 02:46 mrsdurff : i listen to iTunesOnline often 02:46 mrsdurff : ERIC is going online too 02:46 wjohnsen : snbeach - found it. 02:46 mrsdurff : used to be those machines in libraries 02:47 mrsdurff : they always broke on me 02:47 snbeach : share it bill 02:47 hawaiianbrat96 : Thanks for sharing Jack! 02:47 wjohnsen : From local paper... http://hamptonroads.com/node/474341 02:47 snbeach : type in where you are 02:47 mrsdurff : Maryland 02:47 mrkimmi : Salina, KS 02:47 julener : Mem;phis, TN 02:47 wjohnsen : Vrignia Beach 02:47 erhubbell : McREL in Denver, CO 02:47 hawaiianbrat96 : Las Vegas, NV 02:47 snbeach : virginia Beach 02:47 mharlan : california 02:47 robinheyden : Boston, Ma 02:47 ewargo : Medford, NJ 02:47 Jackson224 : Boston 02:47 cbeard : Indiana 02:47 maiden : NC 02:47 eherreid : winston salem, nc 02:47 gkennedy : Philadelphia PA 02:47 mrsdurff : bye jack 02:47 heatherdowd : Dixon, Illinois 02:48 hawaiianbrat96 : I can barely hear you Will 02:48 willrich45-2 : can someone remember to copy and save the chat please.... 02:48 snbeach : turn up your volume 02:48 mrsdurff : turn your volume up 02:48 snbeach : I got it Will 02:48 willrich45-2 : how is that? 02:48 mrsdurff : perfect 02:48 Jackson224 : good audio now 02:48 erhubbell : http://www.plos.org/ 02:48 hawaiianbrat96 : It is up LOL 02:49 mrsdurff : but if people dont' have enough to eat how will they ever access anything? 02:49 hawaiianbrat96 : very true 02:50 snbeach : That has been going on since public school was first created though 02:50 mrsdurff : If one is caught in a wrinkle as the wrinkles close to form this flat world your opportunities to escape the wrinkles decrease while those on top in the flat world ignore you more and more 02:51 mrsdurff : there is an equity problem here 02:51 mrsdurff : how will we address that? 02:52 erhubbell : i know that PBS Kids is already trying to create early learning software for cell phones 02:52 hawaiianbrat96 : The gap between SES classes is always going to be an issue 02:53 mrsdurff : in 1st world countries the impact of cell phones will be great but not in 3rd world countries nor with those at the bottom in 1st world countries - they are still going to fighting for survival 02:53 mrkimmi : We will alwawys have to struggle with gettign students to see them as learning tools 02:53 hawaiianbrat96 : That is the advantage of being industrialized, we will always look for ways to move forward. In unindustrialized countries, they are just pushing forward to survive 02:53 snbeach : That has always been an issue Durff- just before the technologies were tractors or pencils or running water 02:54 snbeach : there will always be haves and have nots with technology 02:54 mrkimmi : THey have spent so much time on them for fun, we have to get them to do some unlearning 02:54 mrsdurff : we need to address it sheryl 02:54 hawaiianbrat96 : very rue mrkimmi 02:54 hawaiianbrat96 : true* 02:54 hawaiianbrat96 : Did you hear that China surpassed how many people they have online compared to the US? 02:54 mrsdurff : with that many minds in the conversation surely we could think of something to ameliorate 02:55 snbeach : we are-- many of us very actively.. the point though is that we need to push hard forward 02:55 snbeach : YES 02:55 snbeach : I present on that 02:55 snbeach : no 02:55 hawaiianbrat96 : The students use texting and iPods for entertainment, we need to find a way to make the happy medium work in the classroom 02:55 mrsdurff : you are in the minority sheryl 02:55 snbeach : http://www.greenstar.org/butterflies/Hole-in-the-Wall.htm 02:55 ewargo : Don't we have a responsibility especially with proliferation of technology to make sure the content, teaching, and learning is quality and not just replacing poor instruction? 02:56 snbeach : no I meant I present on Hole in the Wall 02:56 mrsdurff : google is the surface web 02:56 mrsdurff : what about the deep web? 02:56 snbeach : But I am not in the minority of those looking hard at the digital divide 02:56 mrsdurff : i would hope not 02:56 mrsdurff : but it is not what i observe 02:57 snbeach : http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/india/thestory.html 02:57 vvrotny : coming in late, what is the book that he is refering too and how can I obtain it. 02:57 snbeach : love the video clip 02:57 mrsdurff : hi vinnie 02:58 snbeach : vvrotny.. sorry we cant tell you .. it is secret.. wink 02:58 hawaiianbrat96 : Oh geez, I have online classes through my college, even if we have a campus class. 02:58 hawaiianbrat96 : lol 02:58 snbeach : http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Curtis%20J.%20Bonk&page=1 02:58 vvrotny : @sheryl, thanks alot. 02:59 snbeach : I think co-creation of learning objects will be more impactive 02:59 mrsdurff : MERLOT? 02:59 snbeach : http://www.merlot.org/merlot/index.htm 03:00 mrsdurff : one can access encyclopedia's online via local libraries too 03:00 snbeach : communities thrive when they are built around co-creation 03:00 mrsdurff : and EBSCO 03:00 heatherdowd : Wisc-online is another good repository like merlot. 03:01 mrkimmi : Bob Sprankle was using that. 03:01 snbeach : repositories and portals bore me-- but then it is probably just me 03:01 heatherdowd : http://www.wisc-online.com/ 03:01 hawaiianbrat96 : I use LibraryThing. You can access your library on your mobile phone 03:02 mrsdurff : if you want to pay to access the web via cellphone co 03:03 hawaiianbrat96 : Well, mine comes with it. It comes in handy if I am looking for new books by an author in my library but cannot remember who it is or what book I am comparing to 03:03 mrsdurff : SL? 03:03 mrsdurff : wait 03:03 mrsdurff : not that hard 03:03 mrsdurff : if I can sl anyone can 03:04 heatherdowd : Is library thing like shelfari? 03:04 hawaiianbrat96 : Yes 03:04 heatherdowd : Is librarything the one that Dr. Bonk just mentioned? I missed it. 03:04 mrsdurff : yes 03:04 hawaiianbrat96 : Yes 03:04 snbeach : yes 03:04 heatherdowd : thank you. 03:04 hawaiianbrat96 : www.librarything.com 03:06 snbeach : transparency of thought too 03:06 mrsdurff : Qt: Is visualisation of thought the same or different than visual literacy? What does he think? 03:06 erhubbell : Wordle 03:06 erhubbell : LivePlasam 03:07 erhubbell : plasma, sorry 03:08 mrsdurff : clap clap clap 03:08 hawaiianbrat96 : Thank you Curtis! 03:08 ewargo : Thanks Will and Curtis! It was great conversation. 03:08 heatherdowd : Could someone list the name the book again please? 03:08 mrkimmi : Thanks! 03:08 erhubbell : 03:08 heatherdowd : Thank you!!! 03:08 hawaiianbrat96 : applause, applause! 03:08 robinheyden : Thank you - really interesting! 03:08 erhubbell : thank you Will & Curtis! 03:08 mrsdurff : and there they go................bye 03:09 eherreid : thank you both 03:09 hawaiianbrat96 : Now, that was an awesome experience for me