[10:38:57] <ChrisLehmann> : Jakes!!!
[10:38:59] <DavidJakes> : this is exciting
[10:39:02] <ChrisLehmann> : Mark!
[10:39:04] <DavidJakes> : hahahaa
[10:39:10] <ChrisLehmann> : Dang... and I have a 2:00 meeting I have to go to.
[10:39:12] <markwagner> : Hey, all.
[10:39:16] <willrich45> : you guys need lives
[10:39:22] <markwagner> : Are we all watching will sit at his desk!?
[10:39:33] <ChrisLehmann> : It's riveting television, Mark.
[10:39:40] <markwagner> : :)
[10:39:51] <DavidJakes> : I dont have sound
[10:39:55] <markwagner> : me neither
[10:39:57] <robinellis> : I don't either
[10:40:08] <ChrisLehmann> : "See Will Richardson, internationally known School 2.0 Consultant as he sits at his desk and surfs the web. This is cutting-edge stuff, folks."
[10:40:10] <willrich45> : wait like one minute
[10:40:33] <markwagner> : Works out for me though. I've got David's keynote playing in another window. While reading feeds. Good times for late monday morning.
[10:40:48] <vanishingpoint> : LOL you too ;) you get my skype chat about skype in ustream Will?
[10:40:49] <ChrisLehmann> : David -- about to launch the registration for EduCon 2.0. We're actually going to make this happen.
[10:40:57] <DavidJakes> : Excellent
[10:41:04] <DavidJakes> : See you Jan 25
[10:41:22] <markwagner> : Ok. This is cool. So he's using a different tool to share with his audience?
[10:41:33] <ChrisLehmann> : nice. Next step is planning the conference dinners. :)
[10:41:42] <ChrisLehmann> : Mark -- yes. SO they can't see our chat.
[10:41:47] <DavidJakes> : sweet
[10:41:57] <DavidJakes> : I love this stuff
[10:42:28] <ChrisLehmann> : Hey Will -- SPEAK the address so we know it!
[10:42:40] <robinellis> : I missed it too
[10:42:45] <ChrisLehmann> : he didn't say it.
[10:43:02] <ChrisLehmann> : let's see if he can SNEAK the wiki address into his speech...
[10:43:06] <robinellis> : do you have the chat from beginning he said he put it in there
[10:43:12] <ChrisLehmann> : robin -- different chat.
[10:43:17] <robinellis> : oh sorry
[10:43:23] <ChrisLehmann> : He's in a chat session with a bunch of State Tech Directors.
[10:43:30] <robinellis> : thanks
[10:43:34] <robinellis> : came late
[10:43:39] <ChrisLehmann> : sure enough. :)
[10:44:14] <DavidJakes> : nice transition
[10:44:26] <ChrisLehmann> : he's smoooooooooth.
[10:44:32] <DavidJakes> : understatement of the year
[10:44:36] <DavidJakes> : century
[10:44:50] <ChrisLehmann> : hang on... Theo needs me.
[10:44:50] <markwagner> : This really is a boone for our community if he (and others) are going to share like this.
[10:44:55] <markwagner> : It'll be like k12 online all the time.
[10:45:25] <coolcatteacher> : Hey guys.
[10:45:29] <coolcatteacher> : I was just setting up my own channel.
[10:45:31] <coolcatteacher> : ;-)
[10:45:32] <robinellis> : Hi Vicki
[10:45:33] <DavidJakes> : Hey Vicki
[10:45:35] <markwagner> : Hey, Vicki!
[10:46:09] <markwagner> : I was just saying that ustream is going to make every day k12online day. ;)
[10:46:20] <robinellis> : I think you are right Mark
[10:46:37] <DavidJakes> : Publish our own schedule of Webinars
[10:46:58] <markwagner> : iJohn posted a calednar for us recently. Let me see if I can find it.
[10:46:59] <jimwenz> : Extremely powerful tool!
[10:47:00] <ChrisLehmann> : hey Vicki!
[10:47:20] <DavidJakes> : Vicki: what will we be talking about tomorrow night?
[10:47:47] <ChrisLehmann> : you know what I love about this message -- it's not that new. McLuhan talked about the "Prosumer" almost 40 years ago. We finally have the tools.
[10:48:22] <DavidJakes> : McLuhan's idea are never more important than today...the medium is the message
[10:48:56] <ChrisLehmann> : agreed. I want to re-read.
[10:48:57] <DavidJakes> : the ability of the medium to make significant changes in the way we connect, learn, and promote change is the message
[10:49:36] <ChrisLehmann> : agreed.
[10:49:50] <ChrisLehmann> : But we also have to make sure we still have something to say. :)
[10:50:14] <robinellis> : Just think of the connections available to all of us in the past year
[10:50:15] <markwagner> : Boy, my home office is a lot less solitary than it used to be. I might as well be in an office with all of you (and Will in the next cubicle) right now.
[10:50:28] <markwagner> : I mean that in a good way. ;)
[10:50:56] <ChrisLehmann> : Web 2.0 -- the Global Cube Farm. :)
[10:51:03] <DavidJakes> : @chris. http://tinyurl.com/3ym58l
[10:51:15] <DavidJakes> : Favorite McLuhan analysis
[10:51:46] <markwagner> : Edublogger community calendar from iJohn. Use it for things like this. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/group/1131/?ps=1
[10:51:48] <ChrisLehmann> : sweet.
[10:51:50] <markwagner> : And pass it on.
[10:52:20] <markwagner> : Best way to get URLs out of this chat?
[10:52:54] <markwagner> : Oh, Vicki's a moderate of the calendar, too. Thanks, Vicki.
[10:53:13] <coolcatteacher> : Yes. The calendar is awesome.
[10:53:17] <ChrisLehmann> : Cut and paste
[10:53:21] <coolcatteacher> : John did it -- we just refound it the other day.
[10:53:30] <coolcatteacher> : Does this channel seem really really quiet to anyone else?
[10:53:58] <ChrisLehmann> : Vicki -- we might be concentrating on Will?
[10:54:20] <coolcatteacher> : Oops I've got it now. I'm in a loud room, Chris, sorry to distract you.
[10:55:14] <ChrisLehmann> : Vicki -- no distraction at all. I love multi-tasking... I was just wondering. :)
[10:55:27] <DavidJakes> : Connection is the most critical element of learning today that is missing from most schools
[10:55:30] <ChrisLehmann> : I thought you meant "Chat Channel," not Will's voice. :)
[10:55:41] <coolcatteacher> : No his voice -- the audio -- not the chat.
[10:55:42] <coolcatteacher> : ;-)
[10:55:53] <ChrisLehmann> : ah... gotcha. Did you turn up the volume on the strea?
[10:55:58] <ChrisLehmann> : I always have to turn it all the way up.
[10:55:58] <coolcatteacher> : I figured it out.
[10:56:05] <coolcatteacher> : Ihad to turn it all of the way up too.
[10:56:26] <DavidJakes> : We are being forced to do that, but in the wrong way-its called NCLB
[10:56:51] <ChrisLehmann> : Do we accept payment by check for EduCon?
[10:57:01] <ChrisLehmann> : ack... don't want to leave... have to get to ameeting. *grr*
[10:57:16] <DavidJakes> : He's absolutely right
[10:57:23] <coolcatteacher> : I had to turn it down, am watching the chat - I'm in in service.
[10:57:25] <ChrisLehmann> : yep. He usually is.
[10:57:59] <DavidJakes> : that vision is so far from reality in US schools
[10:58:18] <ChrisLehmann> : David -- we're trying. :)
[10:58:24] <DavidJakes> : In our schools, we are preparing kids for a test-either that or get taken over by the state
[10:58:47] <DavidJakes> : Already happening at our South campus
[10:59:02] <robinellis> : teaching to test all the time
[10:59:03] <DavidJakes> : Learning on Demand, nice
[10:59:05] <ChrisLehmann> : I'm actually proud of how well we do that kind of learning at SLA.
[10:59:26] <DavidJakes> : All of this has really been amplified since NECC
[10:59:31] <ChrisLehmann> : Might not be the right answer... but it'd be *AN* answer. :)
[10:59:49] <robinellis> : in my district 4th grade is not teaching SS for 1st MP only science because of the science state test in Oct
[11:00:33] <DavidJakes> : From the movie Seabiscuit: "It was the beginning and end of imagination all at the same time"
[11:00:48] <DavidJakes> : fits education perfectly
[11:01:23] <DavidJakes> : he's in a zone now
[11:01:44] <DavidJakes> : not transparent, not permeable
[11:01:44] <markwagner> : I love this theme.
[11:01:57] <DavidJakes> : @markwagner. I used permeable...
[11:02:14] <markwagner> : @davidjakes ;)
[11:02:16] <DavidJakes> : sweet
[11:02:28] <DavidJakes> : and the show just rocked!
[11:03:02] <thekyleguy> : it was good, missed the chat though
[11:03:13] <ChrisLehmann> : Anyone else just lose sound?
[11:03:20] <markwagner> : Still have sound.
[11:03:22] <DavidJakes> : im good
[11:03:25] <ChrisLehmann> : odd.
[11:03:39] <robinellis> : audio choppy for me at times Chris
[11:03:51] <markwagner> : David, I almost watched that show from the archive. Couldn't quite make myself do it. ;)
[11:04:12] <DavidJakes> : c'mon drink the Weblogg-ed TV kool aid
[11:04:37] <ChrisLehmann> : o.k. -- got to go to a meeting. Late already.
[11:04:38] <ChrisLehmann> : Later all!
[11:04:52] <markwagner> : Bye, Chris.
[11:05:06] <vanishingpoint> : still got video
[11:05:54] <jimwenz> : my connection is fine
[11:06:01] <thekyleguy> : sound just skipping a beat once in a while
[11:06:11] <DavidJakes> : I think the most important aspect of blogging is personal reflection, and then have the network question, challenge, and support your thinking
[11:06:11] <thekyleguy> : not bad
[11:06:55] <DavidJakes> : I'm wondering if his audience understands the true power of the network for learning
[11:07:18] <DavidJakes> : @markwagner: loved your NECC submission title about networks and learning
[11:07:38] <coolcatteacher> : Readers are writers too and have a lot of power.
[11:08:01] <coolcatteacher> : And he just left!
[11:08:04] <DavidJakes> : too bad he had to leave!
[11:08:14] <markwagner> : I wish we could see his audience and their reflections. I suspect it's "out of the echo chamber" and we could benefit from that. And thanks, David. I certainly indepted to the network for those ideas. :)
[11:08:31] <robinellis> : David I am not sure if one can understand that concept until they actually start to read and connect themselves
[11:08:41] <DavidJakes> : I completely agree
[11:09:11] <robinellis> : Would hope some of these folks will start after this session at least explore
[11:09:42] <DavidJakes> : I think that is a critical aspect of blogging (including personal posts) because it lets people see the real person, and develop that connection.
[11:10:11] <robinellis> : I agree
[11:10:12] <DavidJakes> : It's an amazing experience when you finally meet the person you have been reading, you feel like you know them
[11:10:20] <coolcatteacher> : Really, you do know them.
[11:10:35] <coolcatteacher> : However in some ways the person you know doesn't know you!! and it can be a little daunting.
[11:10:59] <DavidJakes> : LeaderTalk is a great way to hook admins on blogging
[11:11:51] <courosa> : I agree David, that's how I got my admin profs hooked.
[11:12:36] <markwagner> : Regarding knowing the bloggers you read: we really only know part of them. Also, I find reading blogs much different after actually meeting (and getting to know) the blogger.
[11:12:46] <coolcatteacher> : That is true, Mark!
[11:12:57] <coolcatteacher> : I mean, who knew that we had twitter maniacs in our midst until NECC.
[11:13:04] <robinellis> : Very true Mark
[11:13:05] <coolcatteacher> : Steve Dembo and the twittercam were something else.
[11:13:23] <DavidJakes> : Raise your hand if you are looking forward to San Antonio!
[11:13:32] <markwagner> : <raises hand>
[11:13:39] <robinellis> : hand raised
[11:13:51] <coolcatteacher> : hand in stratosphere
[11:14:27] <markwagner> : So true... and important. A lot of folks don't believe that "write it and they will come" bit.
[11:14:29] <DavidJakes> : how will (no pun intended) these tools make a difference there?
[11:14:39] <coolcatteacher> : Use the connections, teach how to connect, teach ethics.
[11:14:58] <coolcatteacher> : Many of us are using the Ning for blogging.
[11:15:01] <DavidJakes> : How does the blogger cafe change?
[11:15:13] <snbeach> : What platform is he using to present?
[11:15:19] <DavidJakes> : @coolcat-how are you getting around the inappropriate Nings?
[11:15:38] <DavidJakes> : @snbeach. Don't know.
[11:15:41] <markwagner> : I think the back channel chat will make the biggest difference. I'll be "we" attend more sessions this year - and get more out of it.
[11:15:42] <courosa> : I've really enjoyed Ning, my preservice teachers are really starting to "get it" through Ning.
[11:15:50] <robinellis> : Nings are blocked for me because of that David
[11:16:06] <snbeach> : Where are the edc leaders he is presenting to?
[11:16:10] <coolcatteacher> : Just blog ning nad unblock the url for your ning.
[11:16:22] <coolcatteacher> : Usually you can have an appropriate site for yours.
[11:16:25] <thekyleguy> : has there been alot on action over the weekend alec?
[11:16:31] <DavidJakes> : and what about home? That's my concern.
[11:16:43] <markwagner> : Hopefully we see a lot of google presos and ustreaming this year, too.
[11:16:45] <coolcatteacher> : There are good and bad web pages.
[11:16:53] <coolcatteacher> : There are good and bad places in Atlanta -- I don't stop going to Atlanta.
[11:17:09] <coolcatteacher> : I'm using it for a church group with a very clear permission form and complete instructions for the parents.
[11:17:23] <courosa> : @thekyleguy ... no, been pretty slow this long weekend, but I find that in every social network this weekend.
[11:17:55] <DavidJakes> : But are you sending them to those bad web pages. Would you send them to those bad places in Atlanta?
[11:17:59] <KarenJanowski> : Vicki - the difference is you have to move yourself to that environment, unfortunately, one click takes you to "bad" pages.
[11:18:07] <coolcatteacher> : No. I don't send them there.
[11:18:11] <coolcatteacher> : Yeah!
[11:18:16] <markwagner> : Yay Vicki!
[11:18:17] <DavidJakes> : But a parent could make that argument
[11:18:31] <robinellis> : and they have where I am
[11:18:31] <coolcatteacher> : Flat classroom just restarted and includes 7 classes
[11:18:31] <DavidJakes> : Good for Vicki!
[11:18:35] <coolcatteacher> : including LA school for the arts
[11:19:02] <coolcatteacher> : http://flatclassroomproject.wikispaces.com - Quatar, US, ST. Louis, China, Australia, Austria
[11:19:06] <courosa> : Man it's amazing how much the content filtering theme continues to emerge in the last few weeks. What a pain filtering is!
[11:19:22] <coolcatteacher> : Oh and forgetting LA
[11:19:25] <DavidJakes> : @courosa. Getting worse, not better
[11:19:35] <coolcatteacher> : Well, if you teach parents about the dangers
[11:19:38] <cfisher> : wrap up? Man I just got here again. I'm always late
[11:19:38] <coolcatteacher> : Tell them that there are problems.
[11:19:39] <KarenJanowski> : i understand your point, vicki, but wish there was an easier way to protect my own kids - I'll never forget the day my daughter at age 10 was onslaughted with visual porn and couldn't get out of it.
[11:19:55] <markwagner> : Hey. I just discovered you can set a preference so people can chat in ustream without having to login.
[11:19:55] <coolcatteacher> : I use Norton Internet Security.
[11:20:11] <coolcatteacher> : It lets me block chatting but I can go in and enable a certain website.
[11:20:14] <coolcatteacher> : That is what I use.
[11:20:18] <coolcatteacher> : at home
[11:20:34] <coolcatteacher> : It can be done with filtering but someone has to be willing to try.
[11:20:35] <thekyleguy> : Clarence, he is going to answer questions from his audience in a few min
[11:20:47] <robinellis> : Part of the issue is those who make the decisions of what is blocked and what is not and why
[11:20:54] <cfisher> : I thought you went or groceries? (Twitter)
[11:20:56] <courosa> : @djakes: Yea, seems like the pressure to filter is worse and worse, but I'm fighting it hard, and helping teachers do the same, while educating parents. It's the only long-term, sustainable solution IMHO.
[11:21:03] <robinellis> : You are in a great position Vicki because it is in your control
[11:21:06] <coolcatteacher> : @KarenJanowski -- Get Norton Internet security and turn on parental controls.
[11:21:09] <thekyleguy> : ha, on my way
[11:21:21] <coolcatteacher> : There is always a way -- filters do as they are told.
[11:21:27] <robinellis> : for me it is my IT department and they are less that cooperative
[11:21:30] <coolcatteacher> : You can block domains but allow a specific one.
[11:21:30] <courosa> : @thekyleguy: What time does the game start?
[11:21:34] <DavidJakes> : @courosa. Fight the good fight, I think the way you are doing it is the right way.
[11:21:36] <KarenJanowski> : thanks vicki!
[11:21:40] <cfisher> : 2:00 your time
[11:21:41] <dproductionz1> : do you know any good adobe help sites
[11:21:42] <thekyleguy> : 2 i think
[11:21:50] <cfisher> : 3 here in MB
[11:21:54] <robinellis> : I know I have asked for training but won't give me access
[11:22:05] <dproductionz1> : do you know any good adobe help sites
[11:22:17] <DavidJakes> : what was in that glass?
[11:22:18] <markwagner> : Oh man. How do we ditch the spam or whatever that is?
[11:22:28] <robinellis> : Never saw this before
[11:22:30] <vanishingpoint> : Nicely done Will\
[11:22:31] <coolcatteacher> : @dporductionz1 -- I don't know that we would -- I just use the regular adobe center.
[11:22:34] <willrich45> : no questions
[11:22:40] <willrich45> : oy
[11:22:42] <markwagner> : Great talk, Will. Thanks for sharing.
[11:22:47] <coolcatteacher> : OK, how do you feel about ustream inschools.
[11:22:48] <robinellis> : Great job Will
[11:22:48] <DavidJakes> : very nicely done
[11:22:51] <coolcatteacher> : We don't know how we feel yet.
[11:22:56] <markwagner> : Really? No questions?
[11:23:03] <markwagner> : Definitely outside the echo chamber.
[11:23:11] <vanishingpoint> : lost audio...
[11:23:12] <KarenJanowski> : looks like will is listening, but i lost audio
[11:23:14] <DavidJakes> : same here
[11:23:15] <coolcatteacher> : No audio.
[11:23:24] <coolcatteacher> : We're in trouble, guys.
[11:23:27] <robinellis> : will take some time before this is accepted in my school
[11:23:27] <coolcatteacher> : He gave us the teacher look.
[11:23:31] <courosa> : @glassbeed: I think it's WB & SK or WB & BC in the grey cup ... no other possibilities.
[11:23:35] <coolcatteacher> : But look at the PD here!
[11:23:37] <cfisher> : and the shaky finger thing
[11:23:39] <robinellis> : wants us to be patient
[11:23:47] <vanishingpoint> : audio back
[11:23:51] <coolcatteacher> : @cfisher - lol
[11:23:54] <courosa> : audio now
[11:24:02] <cfisher> : @courosa we are down to the wire
[11:24:19] <DavidJakes> : @cfisher. How bout dem Bearsz?
[11:24:24] <KarenJanowski> : he is speaking to the audience that needs to hear this stuff!
[11:24:29] <cfisher> : yeah, yeah I sw the score
[11:24:50] <cfisher> : couldnt make it till the end, but picked up the highlights
[11:24:57] <DavidJakes> : same here
[11:25:11] <KarenJanowski> : Will, can you ask them how many of them are using social tools themselves?
[11:25:20] <thekyleguy> : Alright I got to run to the store
[11:25:20] <markwagner> : Too bad we can't hear the questions.
[11:25:25] <vanishingpoint> : He need a USB headset to get discreet audio so we can hear both... but he may not want that too
[11:25:32] <coolcatteacher> : And a TV channel for that matter.
[11:25:36] <thekyleguy> : have a good day all.
[11:25:39] <markwagner> : Speakers would feedback to them... how could he do that.
[11:25:41] <coolcatteacher> : I couldn't hear the questions.
[11:25:42] <courosa> : You can set them up within 5 minutes, only IF they are not blocked on your school filters ... ugggh.
[11:25:50] <DavidJakes> : like he needs more business
[11:25:57] <vanishingpoint> : I have skype running through ustream now. Directions here:
[11:25:57] <DavidJakes> : hahahaha
[11:26:00] <cfisher> : lol
[11:26:01] <willrich45> : true
[11:26:07] <coolcatteacher> : We have had a terrible time on flat classroom e'mailing theteacher from the LA school for the arts.
[11:26:10] <vanishingpoint> : http://vanishingpoint.edublogs.org
[11:26:11] <coolcatteacher> : I literally cannot e-mail her!
[11:26:16] <coolcatteacher> : Had to et ning unblocked.
[11:26:20] <coolcatteacher> : It is like pulling teeth.
[11:26:29] <robinellis> : Yes it is Vicki
[11:26:30] <coolcatteacher> : Awesome job.
[11:26:36] <coolcatteacher> : Thanks for leading the way on this, Will.
[11:26:40] <coolcatteacher> : This is a great tool and great PD.
[11:26:44] <courosa> : Thanks Will!
[11:26:51] <coolcatteacher> : I'm sitting here in a workshop listening to you working on my assignment.
[11:26:53] <markwagner> : Will, you're making it k12onlineconference every day. ;)
[11:26:56] <DavidJakes> : Enjoyed it, had lots of fun chatting
[11:26:57] <coolcatteacher> : bye
[11:26:57] <willrich45> : boring to watch, huh?
[11:27:00] <cfisher> : you are turning into our online hub Will
[11:27:01] <willrich45> : talking heads
[11:27:02] <robinellis> : Thanks Will great job as always
[11:27:04] <coolcatteacher> : hee hee
[11:27:12] <cfisher> : we get together here for PD
[11:27:13] <DavidJakes> : what was in that class?
[11:27:22] <coolcatteacher> : Bye.
[11:27:24] <DavidJakes> : glass
[11:27:33] <vanishingpoint> : nope, but their audio would have been great
[11:27:44] <coolcatteacher> : Hey Will. That was cool. Thanks for letting us watch.
[11:27:46] <robinellis> : only from NJ?
[11:28:13] <robinellis> : Perfect person to talk to them
[11:28:16] <coolcatteacher> : do you think they really understand the importance of these tools?
[11:28:22] <coolcatteacher> : Or are they just nice "technology thingies"
[11:28:31] <DavidJakes> : later
[11:28:32] <markwagner> : Now that's on the recording. ;)
[11:28:36] <cfisher> : later
[11:28:42] <coolcatteacher> : I'll see you there, Will.
[11:28:43] <coolcatteacher> : I'm coming.
[11:28:46] <vanishingpoint> : Would have been neat if they could have called in a skpye conference call
[11:28:55] <cfisher> : (reluctantly) go Bears
[11:28:57] <coolcatteacher> : We can simulstream on both channels. ;-)
[11:28:59] <markwagner> : Gotta somehow stream your screen...
[11:29:05] <robinellis> : Thanks
[11:29:08] <coolcatteacher> : Bye!
[11:29:08] <markwagner> : Later, all.
[11:29:08] <vanishingpoint> : Thanks
[11:29:11] <JenniferWagner> : LOL
[11:29:14] <JenniferWagner> : I made it for the END
[11:29:22] <coolcatteacher> : Bye Jen! ;-)
[11:29:26] <JenniferWagner> : LOL -- bye all
[11:29:30] <vanishingpoint> : :) just good to have ya :)
[11:29:49] <JenniferWagner> : always good to see you Vanishing
[11:29:51] <JenniferWagner> : Point
[11:38:59] <willrich45> : David you still there?